How Often Should You Train To Failure
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Should You Train To FAILURE?
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WHAT IS FAILURE? When and Why Training to Failure is Beneficial? When it’s NOT!
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In weight-training program language that’s 3×10 arm curls. Training to failure means selecting a weight that’s heavy enough so that the last rep taxes you to the point that you struggle to complete it in that set. This is called 10RM (repetition maximum), or the most weight you can lift for a defined number of exercise movements.In weight training, the term “failure” is used to describe what happens when you are unable to continue a set of an exercise due to momentary muscle failure. Some people think failure is when you just think you can’t do any additional reps.
This is wrong. Failure is when you actually reach the point of being unable to finish a rep.Novices tend to slack off and use poor technique in an effort to train to failure all the time, which kills progress and could result in injury. But for someone who has been training with proper.A second benefit to training to failure is that, near the end of a set, all of your smaller muscle fibers become fatigued.
Faced with the continued challenge of lifting a heavy weight, your nervous system is forced to use your body’s larger fast-twitch muscle fibers.Therefore, if a person choses to train to failure then training must be done less frequently than if the person did not train to failure. The question to be answered is whether it is more productive, from a muscle growth perspective, to train to failure infrequently, or to train short of failure but more often.
Training to failure on every set can make your workouts inconsistent and negatively affect your progression from one workout to the next. So, instead of doing something like this: Set 1 – 7 reps to failure with 225 LBS Set 2 – 6 reps to failure with 225 LBS.In research, training to failure is superior for both strength and muscle growth when volume and intensity are matched. For example in a 2005 study by Drinkwater and colleagues two groups of young novice athletes were assigned a volume of 24 reps on the bench press with their 6RM. 6 RM means a weight that they could lift a maximum of 6 reps.
In general, train your free-weight exercises heavier and stay away from failure. Then, finish similar muscle groups with machine exercises closer to failure. For example, perform barbell squats with heavy weights and few reps, stopping each set with a few reps left in the tank.On the week prior to a deload: If you know that you’ll have a planned light week coming up (or a vacation the next week) then train right to failure, at least on your last work sets. During occasional strength testing.
If you never take sets to failure, you’ll never really know how strong you are.In the training lingo, “hitting failure” or “training to failure” means doing reps in a set until you fail to complete an additional repetition. It actually entails attempting a rep, but not being successful.Here’s the key: Training for size is an even mixture of lifting weights, lower rest intervals, and employing methods to ensure fatigue. After you hit failure on a set, give your body a short rest.
The theory for training to failure is based on motor unit (the nerve and muscle fibers innervated by that nerve) recruitment. It is very well known and understood in neuromuscular physiology that the recruitment pattern of motor units is primarily based on the force needs placed on the muscle.Training to muscular failure causes a disproportionate amount of muscle damage.
This means that you’ll need to go through a long recovery process before you can train those muscles again. Historically, muscle damage was thought to cause muscle growth, but now most hypertrophy research is showing that muscle growth is caused by mechanical tension and metabolic stress, not muscle damage.But, also keep in mind that studies show that training to failure can boost your strength gains. In one study participants who bench pressed to muscle, failure gained 5% more strength relative to those who didn’t train to failure. So, done judiciously, training to momentary muscle failure can help you make greater gains. The Bottom Line.
Because training to failure is hard—and hard to do right. That’s how you get into trouble. “As fatigue builds up, technique breaks down,” explains Swisher, noting that you should never train to.
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329 comments
Ehhh… what? I thought training to failure is when you simply cannot do a rep in a perfect form. Simple as that.
Literally, everyone trains like this though, well from my experience… I always see newbies and intermediates hitting failure and beyond. I do that as well and I’m considered an experienced newbie. It’s engraved in my mind. I always go to failure and beyond and I only get a little sore with many sets.
When training on strength exercises. Should you go all the way till you can’t do another rep or leave another rep in the tank
Hi Cory I have been doing the “7 stretches every day “ and “Worlds greatest stretch “ as a prework out routine,But do you have any Post work out stretch routine
When i eat only half a cup of rice. I can hear him in my head screaming “dont be a carbophobe”!
I do normally 3 or 4 sets per exercise so the first are failure and the last is beyond with rest pause,drop sets and negatives.
why do I keep watching someone that yells at me and makes me feel like trash?
Hear to this with your eyes close..its the hardcore one lmao
What I do is every time I think I’m done I say I got 5 reps left in the tank and I end up cranking out a ton of reps until I look like ima explode
Please do a tutorial about how to manage each day of the week(basics, Planche, dynamics…)
Yes, this is great information… thanks Brad and John! You two are performing a valuable service in sharing this. I love drop-sets, especially for dumbbell bench presses, where it is quick and easy to rack the heavy pair and immediately pick up the next lighter pair. Man, those things are brutal, but great for growth and a pump. I incorporate drop-sets now and then, but certainly not every workout. They are an excellent tool if used wisely.
My doctor: You can get injured getting out of bed. You could get injured showering!
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I found your advice pragmatic and useful. Thank you so much Mr. Greg��
Only time I won’t train until failure is if it’s an exercise that requires a spotter.
The idea is to avoid overtraining and injuries. Make every rep count using mind-muscle connection and good form. That way, going to failure won’t be necessary on each set. I stop couple reps before failure on each but the last set. Great information as always, John.
So do I train to failure for one set? Multiple sets? Still haven’t been able to understand this sorry
So pewdiepie is quoting from arnold from the workout review video.
Me: my personal training course lied to me
Coach Greg subscribe to my channel
Been here since 6K. The quality of the contest has always been great John, super great to see you bringing on amazing guests like Brad and even better to see you so close to 100k!!!
Greg how long does it take to start feeling a difference once starting a test cycle?
hey Darek, off topic question but… in videos about food you said something about eating around 3000kcal. Were you eating that much only when you were trying to gain muscle or you eat it every day?
I try to go to failure but sometimes I just feel like I dont have the energy to to those last 2-3 reps. Would taking creatine help?
I am a glutton for punishment. This is a great vlog, Cory. Thanks.
Right now as i’m watching, its not even been 3 months and you grew from 17k to almost 100k!
I binged your videos now as well, i love you content!
i did a chest and tri workout. by the end, for the kickbacks, i couldn’t even do them without weights. the next day, i couldn’t touch my face. my hand would not reach past the end of my nose.
Dr.Greg just the way strength training doesnt mean muscle growth does that also mean hypertrophy training doesnt make strength gainz???
You should not go to failure if you’re benching w/o a spotter. Been there done it, it’s embarrassing & dangerous.
Eddie does not want to drop the soap in the shower because it might get serious
Nice video. All your videos are awesome. Btw… Is your bcep torn? (Im not a hater)
I love your color coordination �� thanks for your great videos!
I’m glad Greg chose to scream PUSSIES and my whole family heard that
Thank for sharing these great videos. How often do you train per week? Do you introduce cross training like biking or running in your routine? Congratulations for your impressive skills!
Can I train to failure if I’m in my first year of training. I often don’t feel sore after workouts unless training to failure.
Hi, so in other words it’s best to go to failure in first set note that down and for remaining sets keep it under the noted number? For example in today’s first round I managed 7 perfect form repetitions of exercise A then started losing balance so for the remaining rounds of exercise A for today I aim for 7 repetitions?
every time im training im think: “im training like a pussy?” then i can get another 1 to 3 reps. its helps a lot. remember guys Ecercice is a REWARD. Thanks for the chill.
You can judge the importance of what he’s saying in the moment by observing the eyebrows. Level 1 is most important at the top. Level 7 when explaining the weather, is at bottom:P
I am the 1% that doesn’t needs to listen your “TRAIN HARDER THAN LAST TIME” advice. I must slow down
Nice video. But I’m a diabetic type 1 for 15 years and I have some pain if I do more repeat in each exercise. Should I apply workout to the failure to perform my strength?
Idk why everyone wants to belike arnold in bodybuilding HE USED STEROIDES HE SAID IT HIMSELF HE IS NOTHING
Totally agree w him tho if you don’t gain anything after 6 months you are training soft
The term “failure” is relative. On this topic (for advanced only) you might want to check Dorian Yates opinion. Great vids. Respect and greetings from Romania.
I always train alone so going till failure with a benchpress or a shoulder press isn’t easy.
Coach Gregg do a video on soreness… I’m natural and never get sore…. what’s that mean? Btw I’m natural and train hard AF
I think I am one that trains very hard. It would be nice to have a video on overtraining like factors leading to overtraining, when to know you are not recovering well, muscle vs nervous system fatigue, how best to recover etc.
Rest In Peace, Mr. Corney. This is what training hard is all about!
I take training volume into account with this too. Low volume (medium rep range) = more/closer to failure where high volume = further from failure.
Literally been watching all of your sets, volume frequency videos! Learned a lot. You should make a small series for them because it’s gold!
John youre a great person, let other people talk about there vision of building muscle, there are many ways that lead to succes.
Does strength-focused training help lose weight as well? i feel like my workouts and recovery is much better with heavier weights and lesser reps (well I’m a beginner and heavy for me is like half my body weight for bench press)
1000 dollars for additional rep? No because you shouldn’t have any reps left. Train harder.
Can u make a video about tips for building muscle, and how much reps should we do etc.
Hello Brother Sorry do you have a calisthenic plyometric or explosive and freestyle all upper & lower body type,variations workout?��
I think that is why we use RPE so to scale it back from failure
The thing to remember is that “studies” in this field are often not statistically significant because they are such limited studies. 10 people over 16 weeks is not a good study but that’s often what we see in terms of hypertrophy.
Unfortunately, the greatest scientists on the planet are trying to figure out what dark energy is and things like dark matter… not how to make muscles bigger.
At 62 I’ve been studying hypertrophy for decades and I can tell you that today, just as 20 years ago, the studies are still full of contradictions.
We have to be our own scientists. Take note of the latest studies by all means, but decide for yourself if it works for you.
I’m over here struggling after 20 pushups, and arnie the tank is doing this shit.
This is why I cover both bases. I start out with getting lots of volume, And then my last 3 sets I take to failure. If you go to failure first it will be hard to get enough volume due to fatigued muscles.
This leads me to ask. If a person does say 4 sets of benches…adds weight each set..then goes to failure on that last set…to me, my personal opinion is. that that last set is the only set that is stimulating any muscle..all the other sets were just warm ups for that main set…cause if you’re not going to failure or at least 1 rep shy of failure, very little if any growth is being stimulating…
these videos with brad have been great, i LOVE to hear a guy that uses a little compiled science rather than a guy who wants to talk about how big his bicep peak got after jerking off three times a day. thanks
Training to failure leads to longer recovery times, and you need a spotter unless you are on smith.
Love your videos man, you’re very well spoken, back up what you’re saying and you explain things very clearly. Got yourself a subscriber. Thanks for the public service <3
Oh man thank you for this channel existing! Its honestly a treasure trove of fitness knowledge
Another great video. You always explain it so well. My biggest problem is that my nervous system seems to stop me long before I get in a good workout, meaning I will start feeling ill while working out. Don’t know if I’m pushing too hard or it’s a nutrition thing.
“you got to get comfortable, being uncomfortable” I like that can I use that please? ��
You are a fantastic educator, thank you. Your videos are always better and better, great value��
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Fantastic as always, evidence based info, unbiased, factual and explained in simple words to reach all audiences. Smart and bright Cori, i wonder why 4 people clicked “not like”, 1k did! thanks for teaching!
I keep watching these videos, nodding along… while my “training” is only being biking to work and home ��…
Keep in mind guys working out isn’t for everyone your genetics are the ones who dictate how big you get dont waist your time
Very nice video and clarification! Power, speed, strenght and muscle hypertrophy must be differently treated! Though about muscle hypertrophy still the reasearch is in debate whether you keep reaching failure at each set or the last set of one specific exercise
I try to get sore every workout. Sometimes I’m not as sore as others but I at least have that as a goal. However if you are not training to failure your most likely not getting sore, unless your doing a ridiculous amount of volume. But the work still has to be intense.
Since we have a mix of muscle fibers, wouldn’t it make sense to train to failure using several repetitions to take advantage of the sequential recruitment of fibers principle? Also, why would we not train the elderly to failure like anyone else? Because the need more rest from the program to recover and grow? Why don’t you just give them more rest days?
Honestly I would watch a loop of that chain flailing for quite some time, beautiful footage.
So, I have a really good question. Not sure if you have been asked it before, so I will ask.
Where, in your opinion would martial arts in general go here? With or without weapons.
Wow, a concept that is still and rightly “debated.” Imagine if all popular “scientific” claims were evaluated as such!
This is super important guys. Training to failure will only get you injured if you do it all the time. Training is very specific. One you cheat you lose that specificity.
“Training to failure” in my experience is fine for shoulders, biceps, chest, & it may be necessary for me to grow those muscles. But I already have a heavy squat & deadlift for my bodyweight, & if I train those lifts to failure, I feel overtrained & it seriously impacts my ability to be active for 1-2 days after. When I was modelling years ago I had a trainer who told me not to max those lifts but to burnout the end of leg day by running stairs. It’s 1 of the best fitness tips I’ve ever gotten. It’s made a huge difference in how lean & defined my lower body looks, & it’s actually has gotten me over strength & speed plateaus, too (I’m a distance runner). I challenge anyone to do this if they doubt it’s possible to gain muscle & reduce fat in an area simultaneously
6:32 ouch i just skipped leg day today on my push/pull/leg program. Dammit u sneaky bastard. Lol
To me, training to failure is stopping when you cannot do another rep with proper form.
I have a request/suggestion: can you talk about “training within your limits over and over”? I tell you why. We have plenty of videos, articles, etc. talking about “pushing the limits”. Well, what if I am satisfied with my bench press weight? I don’t want to lift more than that. Yes, I do change exercises, but bench press is a benchmark. The real challenge now is to lift that weight till I’m 99 yo. It’s kind of a mental game. And as we see people getting older AND healthier, this kind of help makes sense.
When trying to train to failure, would it be best to go with a downset program like working with heavy weight to maximum and immediately switch to lighter weight (10 15 lbs lighter) until failure to get the most of the workout?
I found training to failure caused more injuries. Sorry… it was doing too many reps that caused my tennis elbow…
You should never train to failure, you should train for performance
I read in a forum people say you recommend muscle confusion not sure whether thats true or not but anyways how important is it to change your workouts as an intermediate and on? A trainer at LA fitness said they have members do a different workout every time to keep growing.
Thanks, John.
Dr. Schoenfeld’s the boss!
Your beard is a good look. Going full Feroce with that? ��
Darek, takie dziwne pytanie, czy ten czarny t-shirt jest poliestrowy, czy z bawelny?
Ehh I go back and forth with this. The mature me wants to do a little more volume but stay with 2-3 reps of max effort. The real me says “fuck it I’m hitting this last set to failure”.
5/3/1 reccomends starting with 60% of your 1 rep max, and reccomends training to volume failure, rather than strength failure. Arguing semantics slightly but the two are different and I’d reccomend one faster than the other depending on the person.
So happy I discovered your channel. I can already feel the gains coming..
Hello Cori,
How are you?
Everything cool?
There’s a passing comment about training to failure impeding the training of speed with no follow up.
As a martial artist, that’s something that interests me. Can you explain how you came to that conclusion? I understand that it’s more appropriate to use technique specific training rather than gym stuff for speed/velocity work.
Back when gyms were open I would train to failure all the time. One or two sets per body part, never more than five sets a work out and probably a week between each workout. It worked really well. I have other considerations as well like technical practice etc so brief and infrequent workouts are a more efficient way to train for me. There are mental elements as well, going all out is beneficial as not leaving anything behind is a mindset to cultivate.
I’m not trying to set any traps or anything like that, I’m interested in the logic of your approach and this is a minefield. Are you advocating multiple sets? What recovery periods do you suggest?
See you soon,
Matt
Can training past failure with dropsets and a bit of cheating hurt my gains? I think it feels awesome to go harder every time
Why is it all the nerdy science guys are small? Also, he contradicted himself. He said dropsets are best used at the end of the workout. Well, John and his most recent video they utilized drop sets on the first two exercises. I take this stuff with a grain of salt. There is no one way textbook way to train. Intensity is key.
Dorian Yates went to failure most of the time it’s all depending on the individual in my opinion
If you use train to failure, there are some things you should keep in mind. First, stop working out If you feel pain. Finishing workout with injuries is not a smart choice. You end up with spending a lot of time.
Second, taking enough amount of rest is essential. For example, on Monday, you target upper body with going to failure, you should avoid working out your upper body until you recover it. It means, If you don’t go to failure, you don’t have to take a long break.
Redefining strength work no: 297 thank you for your information
Could you do a video about building muscle safely with hypermobility? I have been trying to get my muscles stronger to keep my joints in place but a few days ago I dislocated my shoulder with a push-up (I was getting tired, let my form slip, and oops! cue overdramatization) and now I wonder if push-ups were even working the best muscle groups for supporting the shoulder joints as I get stronger.
I work out 3x a week (Mon/Wed/Fri). On Fridays, I usually go to failure, because I have an extra recovery day. So far, that’s been working pretty well.
..Thanks for clearing so many doubts! Your explanations are always clear
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Train to failure (in proper form/ no compensation). If you’re breaking form, you are past failure
And when you hold the front vis the back is flat or slightly curved.
I’m at home and missing dumbbells, especially doing chest press,fly and bench press….
Can anyone let me know when you say do 3 sets to failure and have a rep range of say 6-15 (roughly) when do you actually increase the weight because all sets are different reps. So it might be 13 10 8 etc. When would you increase the weight when the first set gets over 15 or am I wrong? Does all sets have to be up there with the reps because that never happens with failure training (and taking sets to failure is so much more simple for me)
To build muscle?Athlean x explains it better if you are not trining to failure In your workouts what are you doing?you are not maximizing muscle growth by breaking as mush fibers as possible without injury by using lower weights and then after two days your muscle synthesis will be replenished
This is low key dumb �� If your maximizing muscle growth you train to failure and if your goal is not muscle growth more strength training you might wanna lead with a more low rep big weights to learn how to use as much muscles at once as possible.
Always a pleasure to see Brad evaluating research with regards to possible limitations.
An additional question I could think of would be: How far is your everyday point of failure from your point of failure in the lab not being a 100% motivated vs getting screamed at and giving it your all. Maybe you’re gonna be 2 reps of anyway and keeping another two in the tank would be to little effort.
I definitely push myself, but at 60 I’m more in tune with my body. Some days I can push harder than other days and when I get that feeling in my stomach like I can throw up I back off and I definitely take a few days to rest with off days relaxing or going for a 2-3 mile walk at a comfortable pace.
Hey guys! In this video I shared with you why you shouldn’t train to muscle failure all the time in your workout program. RPE scale explained in description as well as free beginner E-book I prepared for you!
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Did it today. Tho I do like to train heavy. Failure was good ������������
fuck! I’ve been taking the wrong advice all this time. I’ve been training till failure in general, then I heard train harder than last time so, I do forced reps for all my sets. Couple months in I have heart palpitations, anxiety and irritability and problems sleeping.
Can you make video for beginners who can’t do pull ups and also video for bigger forearms
Watching videos on YT have to put vol on max
Watching Dr. Greg all volume levels to the minimum:)
He can only get 5 plates 10/12/15 reps. I hope that’s my only one day
Only recently subscribed to this channel, but been watching a lot. Thanks, this is what I usually do but recently I been following a push/pull/legs, with progressive overload, not many warm ups o build ups, but I feel it a risk because im stronger because Im not as fatigued going into max which is creating niggles, whats your thoughts?
i’m a beginner can you tell me what you think of this routine:
20 chin ups
10 pull ups
60 push ups(15×4)
60 inclined push ups (15×4)
20 australian pull ups(5×4)
20 diamond push ups
5 dips
60 bench dips(5×4)
100 squats
And to end some knee raises
Doing it 3 times a week,what you think?
If I don’t train to failure how do I know when to add weight or reps or sets?
When will your pants be available in the shop again? (Size M/L)
What I usually do make each set light say 315 make that light or ur other set 380 make that light what the rush for a pr
Not directly on the topic of this video, but:
if I understand it correctly, the consensus in the fitness industry is, supersets are inferior for gaining muscle.
But is increased energy expenditure and metabolic fatigue worth the tradeoff in mechanical tension during a fat loss phase, where muscle gain is minimal or nonexistent?
Would it be sensible to just superset everything to get in an out of the gym ASAP, and would it be good enough to retain muscle?
Would be really glad to hear your (or Brad’s) thoughts on that matter.
Train to failure.Its proven to work and it does not take an hour to explain.
Hey Cori this is an awesome video!! I’m glad I don’t have to train to failure every time ���� I want to be able to just up and do a workout at a moment’s notice so will need to be able to recover quickly.
Do you think you could do a video on the best training for different body types, ecto/meso/endomorph and stuff?
If that dude were in plant fitness he would would be kicked out for breaking the lunk alarm
Train to failure but Train fast, Eat well, Sleep well…What more do you need
Firstly, sorry I’m late, I just found you.
2nd, as an Englishman abroad, your demeanour is like a portal back home. Without the inbridled chaos and death
WRT this video, there are 2 things I’d like to ask you to investigate. I’d enjoy your opinion and you would like these topics (although uou may already be apprised):
1) I have a soft spot for Thib also. He bridges the arcane, mystical side with absolute empirical integrity (Biotest products aside). Would make a good cult leader. Please do a vid about his/Poliquin’s NEUROTYPES concept. The intersection of neurotransmitters and MBTI-ish characteristics is fasxinating. I was a sceptic, not any more
2) In this vid, you referenced the 7 levels of exercises. Either Thib borrowed that from Leo Costa’s ‘Big Beyond Belief’, or they both borrowed it from the same place, maybe Phil Hernon. This system is interesting too, well worth an analysis, regardless of conclusions
Thanks mate, very good work
Can the comments ever be serious? Cliche “I see Greg vid..I click and listen to get yelled at”
Y’all are probably 50% body fat lol
The proper HIT method doesnt involve warmups or pyramid sets up so yes they can do every set to failure, but thats proper HIT not the stuff Dorian did.
Yo I’ll admit I don’t really know much about the science behind exercise. Ironically, I’ve been working out regularly 3-4 times per week for about two-and-a-half years, and I’m mentioning this because I go to failure in every set. Admittedly, I don’t know if this is appropriate, so I’m all ears on anybody’s advice.
My workout routine I’ve been doing is very simple: 3 sets of diamond push-ups until failure, 3 sets of wide push-ups until failure, 3 sets of knuckle push-ups until failure, 3 sets of decline push-ups until failure, 3 sets of chin-ups until failure, and 3 sets of pull-ups until failure. I don’t count the reps on the push-ups, instead I try to count to 5 seconds going up and going down. It may be genetic, but when I first started, I think I was sore after once or twice, but I’ve very rarely been sore since.
I’m aware this probably lacks effectiveness just based on its simplicity. However, I love this routine because: being a hermit I like it because I can do it easily at home, I love doing body weight exercises, and its simplicity makes the mental hurdle of getting started much smaller.
I’m not recommending this to anyone since I lack the knowledge to defend it beyond my own personal reasons, but like I said, I’m open to anybody’s advice/criticisms. Thanks.
3:50 What are you weightlifting Bros who are actually bigger than you but you think you are?
I like if I go beyond failure for a week is to take a couple of extra days off to heal.But that does not happen often because we all have to go to work the days after.
I like how we all have different approaches to working out for the same end goal.
I am a big believer in volume for size, I’ve always imagined pumping a tire, would you do 8 pumps to fill it or 15+?
I can do skills fairly well and train them separately from the training for growth
You are freaking hilarious ������. My new favorite channel. I’ve been binge watching your videos
“Failure” the point where form breaks down. This could be 1 or more reps before absolute failure. Imo obvs.
Holy shit this is by far your best video, mainly the first 20 seconds������������
In my personal experience I always found training to failure to be more effective when building a high level of cardio. Granted I only have a martial arts background i’m not sure how it applies to something like bodybuilding or powerlifting. But in something like martial arts when facing another opponent it’s crucial to have an extremely high level of cardio to be able to maximize your output within a short period of time. There’s a saying in the martial art community (or at least at my school) of “everyone becomes a coward when they get tired,” and I feel it really emphasizes how important stamina is in that kind of thing. However when it would come to building strength I found in that field personally that training to failure was only good as a measuring stick.
Can I use a 25lb dumbbell in right hand and a 35lb dumbbell in left hand during chest press?
I do a total body workout with alternating workouts every day I train. Training to failure never enters my mind. I don’t need it. Usually by the third or fourth set, I’m done. Done is done.
If I deadlift to failure, that pretty much means passing out.
“Roids till fail” Ftfy. Praising Arnold is like praising Lance Armstrong for doing drugs & cheating. The Cycling sport didn’t allow it but the weight lifting sport does, says alot about the Industry ��
Great concise explanation. Thanks. Most of us want to train like pros and most of us cannot simply because we don’t have the time to recover properly. This applies to endurance sports and strength sports. Stress is stress, right. So, leaving a few reps in he bag and coming back day after day is more beneficial than going to failure then taking 3-5 days off to rest. Recovery is the most under valued topic in amateur athletics as no one wants to pay a coach that tells them to rest. Unfortunately, coaches take advantage of this to gain more clients, who then get injured and or over trained. The coaches rinse and repeat. Thank you for the informative video.
Hi Cori! Thanks you for clearing this issue. It´s been rather unclear to me what to do up until now. This has been very helpful!��
I would also add that those with fibromyalgia, or any disease or disorder where the body does not remove lactic acid quickly should not train to failure. Training to the point of extreme stiffness and soreness is an indication of scar tissue being formed in muscles, and it inhibits future muscle growth, as scar tissue will not form the micro lesions in fibers necessary for said growth.
How many times per week should i go to the gym? Thanks for the reply
My father used to say, ” Don’t ever take financial advice from someone who is always broke.”
Rep ranges depend on what you’re doing. Strength building occurs in the 3-8 rep range. Hypertrophy in the 8-12. And Endurance/Hypertrophy in the 12+. If you find yourself plateauing, do harder exercises at the beginning of a workout in the 3-8 rep range. For bodyweight workouts, you want to structure your routine like this: Skills, Strength, Endurance/Hypertrophy, Mobility. Skills demand the most from you. If you are not incorporating negatives into your training, you’re missing out. Muscles contract up to 150% stronger during eccentrics. Negatives are a phenomenal way to get that progressive overload and see those gains again. Do negatives with your strength work. People only plateau because they don’t focus hard enough and don’t structure their routines well. Never go to failure at the beginning of a workout. Always wait until the end.
It is click bait. I was interested in seeing Arnold’s advice on exercising and instead you popped up is the VERY DEFINITION of click bait. Thumbs down for you. ������
I used to lift to failure (I still do now as well) when I was 18 training for the corps. I got big and strong very quickly. I did take creatine but I knew nothing about diet and nutrition. I trained this way due to wanting to build stamina and strength at the same time. YOU CAN HURT YOUR JOINTS if done the wrong way
So am I right to say that anyone who train fasted won’t be able to activate type 2x fiber since the body glycogen storage has been depleted?
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Mike Mentzer: “Failure? My granite sinews laugh at your definitions of failure. You must go beyond failure.”
Yes u should! But listen to your body. This is where cardio helps u get those extra reps
Safety doesn’t give you muscles, grab the bar and lift the fucking weight.
thanks for your unique content
I have Q
is there any difference between training for hypertrophy and strength.
I just want to work out for strength not for size up
basically: multi-joint/short rep powerlifting movements, don’t train to failure. Single-joint/high rep movements do train to failure
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Great Video Darek, Keep up the great work
loving the new video editing
I totally agree that taking a set to failure increases recovery time. But if you don’t do it then you will be performing mediocre sets. How to know when to stop in order not to reach failure, but still to reach high level of fatigue?
This channel should be required course content for anyone studying to become a personal trainer. Love your work boss.
I conclude that training to failure is better than the failure to train��
Yea you can’t be afraid to avoid from fainting from working out so hard
just a complete waste fo energy doing warm-up sets for each exercise. After the first exercise you are plenty warm to go straight to the heavy set for your next exercise. That is what i do and of course it was mastered by Dorian Yates.
Video idea: how to train for static skills
(for example that you shouldn’t just do holds but also negatives, or additional excercises like pullups / Dragonflags for the Front Lever)
@The Boston Mass What do you feel is the best frequency for bodybuilding each muscle group per week or best training routine? Thanks man!
Always train like this, I had never known why people out there do 5 sets of 8 to 12 at the same weight.. It’s so dumb..
Even a push pull split is fine for failure training it’ll still have about 48 hours between training each specific muscle group. However the points here are valid, training to failure has a place but should probably be used sparingly. There are so many ways to push past your limits anyway, from using a spotter for some assisted reps to a few properly executed cheat reps to several short 10-15 second rests followed by more reps to using negatives or changes in tempo during your set, the list could go on, rather than just training to failure, modifying your training to never truly hit failure but still push beyond your current limits is probably more effective
If it takes longer to recovery then does that mean more muscular stimulus has occurred, therefore more hypertrophy?
This is dumb….working to failure for muscle growth is absolutely the best way to grow muscle fastest. But how you eat and what you feed your body after those workouts is the key to proper recovery and muscle growth. Working to failure then drinking 25 protein shakes every day is not going to do it.
Brad Schoenfeld can research hypertrophy all he wants. He appears to not know how to employ it
Here’s what happens:
You lift a weight heavy enough that you can only do 10 solid reps, and no more.
As you progress through the set, lactic acid builds up.
This lactic acid causes your nervous system to become stressed.
This stress impedes your muscles’ ability to do what you’re telling it to keep doing.
The body therefore has to recruit more and more type 2a/2b fibers to keep lifting.
At the end of the set, the last few reps, almost all type 2a/2b fibers are recruited.
And most dumbasses stop far shy of this, or practically drop the weight for the last few reps, avoiding all the micro damage they could have had if they’d done slower negatives for the last few reps.
Just a question, because I really want to train in the right way without getting injuries or affecting my nervous system. Right now I’m training with only bodyweight since I don’t have time or money to go to a gym. The program that I use is a 4 days a week full body workout to failure. Do I need to stop training to failure? If so, is there another way of training like this without failure that ensures muscle growth? Thanks in advance!
There’s some great info, I’m just trying to overcome overtraining caused by going to failure way too much-especially on compound moves
How to start calisthenics skills. Also how to manage skills and basics together.
It would be a dream come true to be able to have one workout with Arnold in his prime or even now.
that shower will strip the primer off your rusted out camaro
Love your videos. I’m a new subscriber so I’m going back over and watching some of the ones that are a little old so I apologize for my question being on a topic that has been covered a while back. But I’m 49 years old been training 35 years and would consider myself in the best shape of my life. On the big compound movements like shoulder presses and incline presses tricep pushdowns machine preacher curls leg curls I do a descending set on my last set. Which is to say I go to failure and they remove weight I continued on until failure and remove weight three or four times for the last set. In your educated opinion is that a good thing or am I doing too much?
For novices and intermediate lifters, I don’t think you need to train to failure at all. What is difficult is not always effective. You should be building strength, not testing strength. I used to think, “train to failure, push yourself to the limit, maximise the muscles working”. But I’ve realised that training to failure will hinder your progression. And progressive overload is the most important thing. If you stall at a given weight on your set and rep scheme, and you back down the weight a little and build back up, stick to your set and rep scheme, there’s no purpose of training to failure. Get your reps in, build back up and take that step forward in progression. In most occasions, training to failure won’t build strength, it’s only a test of strength, which should be used very rarely in my opinion.
Hey i have a video Idea: Best Skills for Triceps like impossible dip, difference between impossible dip and victorian, some kind of tutorial and information would be fine, also a tutorial for the shoulder flag. keep up the good worrk i follow you a long long time.
Fantastic video. So glad I found this channel. Thankyou for the information.
Made the best gains ever doing 3 sets till failure EVERYDAY, I REPEAT, EVERYDAY….. On overhead presses, 6 days a week.
Each month my strength was doubling.
I overhead press 300lbs now, at the bodyweight of 250lbs.
Same with chin ups, 20 reps of chin ups with 110lbs plates strapped on.
Failure for the win.
Yes there will be downs in your strength but you will see each week your performance go up.
is training to failure optimal for type 2 muscle fiber growth?
Personally I’d listen to ARNIE about building muscle, funny how small dudes or people who look like shit are the one’s telling buff dudes how their training wrong!!����
What!?? No squats to failure??? My former trainer won’t like that answer.
lets be honest, the pressure in those shower heads is a dream
So what I gain from this is, if you have limited time to train per week. Training to failure could be a good fit. I do full body 3 times a week as I can’t go more than this. I always go to failure on last set only on each exercise. Most sets are 3 but smaller.muscle.groups.i only do 2.sets. I am an older lifter 40 yo and changed from push pull miss leg day split NZ that is pretty true. I find it a lot easier to do legs now as u can’t really skip it doing full body.
Very well said and perfectly put together! You covered every aspect and details of all the variables I bring up when my clients ask about lifting! Can’t wait to share your video!
I’d rather take the advice of arnold over some geek with some badly written study.
I don’t care what you say…I know you’re keegan micheal key!!
i cant believe you just copied jeff nippards vido, hey guys it dousnt matter if its failure or no..spoilers..
My very scientific experience with this has taught me that if I max lower body compound exercises like squat and deadlift, then I can only train lower body that way 1x per week at that level of intensity. However, that is not optimal. What our running and track coaches teach is that, generally speaking, the Russian program of training legs (high volume/ more frequency) has been found to be more effective for runners than the American program (more weight/ to failure/ lower frequency).
everything to failure that’s how i trained from the start. nothing hard about it. how much do you want results?
I was watching this trynna learn and my parents thought I was watching porn…. thanks Arnold
When is tom 1 year transformation? It has been a year, i am waiting for this
Quick question. If for example i am able to do 10 pull ups and i need to do 4 sets but my strength and endurance only allows me to do 2×10 and then i have to split them into 4×5 for example to achieve the total of 40 as the initial goal. Is that a good training method to do more sets with fewer reps to make sure i do my full number of reps or would it be wiser to do something like 4×7-8 and slowly work my way up to 4×10?
After hearing this I’m probably going to start training to failure on day 1, then 2 or 3 days after I’ll train just u der failure then go back to training to failure. Then of course I’ll fit in my proper rest days.
Jose,
Great channel and information.
BTW, You could pass for MMA fighter Phil Baroni’s brother.
Do you deactivate your scapula while being down in pull up? Scapula activated -> Pull up -> Stop for a second -> Go down -> Deactivate scapula and all again?
I do as meany pull ups as I can the start doing priymaid pull ups but everytime I finish a pull set I go do dips about ten everytime.
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I almost never train to failure, I have a rare disease that compromises my body’s stress response mechanisms. Max effort training can put me in the hospital or the morgue in pretty short order. Since developing the disease I’ve had to learn to be smarter with my training plans and focus on other variables besides intensity to continue to progress. There’s more than one way to get to your goal, and getting creative and finding work arounds actually makes training more rewarding in the end.
Although it seems self explanatory, you didn’t address what training to failure is. I say this because from what I’ve heard there is two potential meanings-
1. Keep repping until you fail a rep
& 2. Keep repping & stop before the rep you perceive you would fail on
See 1. Would = going to hospital on B.B. squats
But 2. You can do on all exercises so what is it?
I do 2. On everything and consider it failure training because I’m leaving 0 reps in the tank
Why do you need to fatigue the type 2X fibers ( im sure use to be called type 2B fibers), instead stimulate the fibers. I think this is what most olympic weightlifters train for. Its rare for them to ever miss a lift unless competing and going for a new PB. Similar to powerlifters??
What is the difference between hypertrophy and strength training.
we can see many advanced variations of exercises like in the case of push-ups itself there are a lot but there is limited knowledge on what variations are actually beneficial can u make a video on this
I find that the thought of ‘training to failure’ short-circuits my head in a bad way. Seeking ‘failure’ sets off the wish to fail. I find it more helpful to ‘train to the last rep with good form’. That puts my head in a good form rather than failure mode.
Woah! What was that side to side swing with the heavy metal chain. Would love to hear more about that exercise.
I suggest hitting failure in every sets of isolation exercises like bicep curl or skull crusher for optimal gains because they do not tax your nervous system as much as compound exercises or skill training
There is nothing more masculine than flexing with your training partner in the shower
Hi! When it comes to strengh-increasing workout, what should be the RP number?
Hyperthrophy: 8-9
Strengh building:?
I don’t train my legs to failure because of the safety issue but have trained to failure in everything else; yet my legs by far are my best body part.
Pretty good idea with the scale. Thanks for sharing this with us. Will help a lot of athletes out here!��
Before watching the video, I don’t think you should train to failure all the time as it isn’t sustainable. Let’s see if Darek manages to change my mind!
Nice breakdown! I read Brett Contreras book ” glute lab” really good information and exercises. He pretty much says 1/3rd of your workouts to failure, 1/3rd just shy of failure, and 1/3rd not till failure.
thank you for a somewhat exhaustive explanation on the subject.
Very informative Greg. Thank you. I like your simpler, no nonsense approach.
I usually train every single set till muscle failure, but I haven‘t made any progress in 2 months, should I change that?
Did you ever do a street workout session? Would be fun to watch and interesting
what about static skills like front lever and planch should i train it to failure?
Hi Darek. Do you have program which combines both sets & reps and skill training?
I am interesting in front lever in particular.
I work out… to failure or near failure… every time; however, I NEVER get sore after the workout. The only time I’ve had DOMS is the first time I’ve been to the gym after a prolonged break. Is this normal? If so, am I hurting any gain potential by lifting the same muscle group every day? Overtraining only comes to play if you’re neglecting your potential because of fatigue or injury, correct?
My husband and I lift 3 to 5 days a week generally 45 minutes to an hour and a half session and while we lift until we can’t complete another set, the next day my husband is sore while I am rarely ever sore the next day. Often times I’m lifting the same weight my husband lifts. Do some people just not get sore?
I did reps to failure with pc and dropped the bar on my thighs
My stinkin pull up plateau. Since I can’t do that many can I do negatives or assist bands to failure after doing my 2 or 3 pull ups per set?
I just trained my arms for like 3 hours yesterday. Took many sets to failure but noticed my pump starting to go away toward the end. Was this too much? I’m really not sore today. I was a ditch digger in a former life so my arms are used to tons of abuse shoveling day in and day out. But did I overdue this? It takes ALOT to get my arms sore as long as my tendinitis doesnt flare up.
I just do my straights using more volume each workout and then do my very last set to failure.
What do you think about high volume calisthenics workouts? Ex: 15 push ups, 7 pull ups, 10 burpees X 20 sets? (300 push ups, 140 pull ups, 200 burpees)
Good morning Darek. Another great example of how to train & maximize results body & mind control. Thank you Keep it coming brother. ✌������������
Thais boy Norek is cool throuht him I finaly aprouch tô do onde muscle up. He was in the point, it take hight pull ups.
There is big difference between 3x3s and one set of 9 to failure (in powerlifting) 3×3 will allow u t o load up the bar (means higher intensity) instead of of a set of 9, which we are trying to achieve getting better at maxsub max weights.
I’ve tried going to failure on squats, like my Tom platz but the feeling of crashing, specially when i put 2 days a week to squats or lower body training: Squats, smith machine, leg press ETC…is too much, thanks for the advice because maybe that’s the reason i feel exhausted
Just flexin naked in the shower together and still not gay. No big deal.
I had this question for so long. Thank you for creating this video.
You know, I don’t if you’ll even read this, but you are a very positive influence on me. I look at you and just… thank you. You make want to get up and start again, even though I have stopped multiple times before.
Please keep posting videos. Your videos are really helpful.
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Ok, outstanding discussion. Brad explains the topic with wealth of information. Great guest! Thanks John
I do full body every day 2 warm up sets 3 working sets. First set is all out heavy failure set the i do 2 more drop sets with a few reps in the tank. Works good for me.
I swear to you guys that my dad just enters my room with the single weirdest expression on his face, thinking that I was possibly watching gay porn
I think a key point (esp. one taken in some studies, and which needs to be kept in mind when analyzing these studies) is the distinction between training to mechanical failure vs training to muscular failure.
The latter is best done infrequently, but the former might actually be the ‘effective reps’ that indeed are needed to build strength & muscle.
But, overall, a good video.
Awesome video, are you anabolic yet? Thank you for sharing:)
Reps to failure is great, but you must do them with good form and if you are a beginner or intermediate you shouldn’t do it all the time
I only do drop sets on biceps n triceps where I can drop weight n grab next, or move pin to pushdown with less. Love it.
Watching this while takin’ a shit and my parents think I’m watching porn
14 minutes of an angry short guy telling me I’m a failure is what I needed today
Tested positive for covid’
My mind:No symptoms
My body: come on let’s get serious
Does Brad have some problem with his facial nerves or something, because he always seems to have that smirk lol
I’m from Russia, I don’t understand what, but I’m still watching))
As I recover from my bilateral inguinal hernia surgery, I realize straining on every lift is no longer part of my life. So this coaching video could not have arrived at a better time. I’ll be slowing down, improving form, focusing on the eccentric, increasing repetitions, and above all, following along with your comprehensive video library, where sincere and consistent effort is the goal. Thanks Cori.
Why the hell is youtube constantly recemmending this after 8 damn years.
When you will reduce your Calisthenics workout program which cost 89$?
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love your videos. I want to buy that hoodie or Merch similar to that. I just hope they not that expensive lol
Love/hate the trainer when they sneakily extend a set into 11 reps instead of 10!
Guys i dnt know if it is a silly question but Which Water should I shower after push ups and barfix or a 6 km running? Is it healthy to shower with Cold water or normal?
1 second up 2 second down still dangerous. 6 sec up and 6 down. or more its optimum for training. speed its a most denger thing for an athletes. failure never good. just striking for kill your heart muscle. half way to failure you need to stop. failure you do only on some show. not for training. if you train safe, then you dont will injured on show. that lookes like training on super high level athletes. when you do training you give anabolic surrounds for muscles and working for muscle-mind connections. you dont need to go to failure to do that. you just need more volume. greg dont know how to train and have injured a lot. for nutrition he dont know better to.
Love your videos, they are definitely helpful. And I will apply what you said. It makes sense. Keep grinding.
Makes total sense. I had major surgery 10 weeks ago and am FINALLY able to do my regular upper body routine. But I’m very weak. But it’s still harder than what I was able to do even 2 weeks ago. I have always preferred higher rep more intensity anyway. Just love this whole workout thing regardless
I started watching your channel about a month ago. Thanks for inspiring me to begin creating new workouts for my channel!
Thank you soooo much! The whole volume & intensity debate that happened recently made my head hot.
Thanks a lot Cori for clearing some of it up
On roids v.s. off roids makes a big difference on what you can do to failure.
Sorry, but I have to train to failure cause I need the gainzzzz. ��
I just found out my girlfriend watches your videos, now I know she is the one.
Seeing those people straighten their legs on the leg press gives me war flashbacks
Guy is litteraly at the brink of death Arnold: C’mon lets get serious.
I’ve seen this clip so many times and it always makes me laugh “I have no fear of fainting in a gym” lmao
When people ask this question they do mean their working sets… why does everyone answering this always seem to not realise that?
Why jeff nippard studies are just as bad as any others are because all his studies consist of 10 people or less Gtfo
Eddie, dead since 13 years.
Arnold on Eddie’s grave: Come on Eddie. Get serious now. Two more.
“absolutely perfect” very informative information that I’ll always use wisely, thank you very much John for your expertise!!!
Imagine repping 315 8 times just to have someone say “Cmon let’s get serious”… Hold tf up… whaaaaat? ������
it looks like I was training to failure all my life (except of learning new stuff or coming back after injury or brake…), I always thought that this is natural way of training
All you man-babies out there who are wondering why you’re not getting any gains. You don’t have the same mindset like the bodybuilders of old.
My shower is like a sprinkler for water plants. The shower head they are using in the video is a tsunami.
Gymnasts and Olympic Weight Lifers (Or just weightlifters) > power lifting, bodybuilding.
the ‘taking just one set to failure’ approach sounds like it is right in sync with routines from Wendler’s 5-3-1, where the last set is ideally AMRAP. (I am doing this now, as I think the ‘every set to failure’ approach leads to overtraining, at least for me, as I am 55 years old…) SO far making quick strength gains in bench, would like to be benching 225 again ASAP!
I love this woman, my favorite trainer in youtube. Always learning from your videos.
I strongly believe in going to failure and beyond, if you are trying to be the best you can be, not for recreational lifters. If you could get the same gains by leaving 3 reps in the tank I think that way more people would work out. I recently started training to failure and I exploded past my plateu
Years ago I purchased one of Brad’s books. Boy was I disappointed! Same old stuff we have known for years. I threw the book away. BTW why is Brad so weak looking?
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Failure vs Momentary Muscular Failure is a concept I rarely see discussed other than from Drew Baye, Ellington Darden, and I believe Arthur Jones.
In momentary failure you’re basically training a muscle till the point you can no longer perform a rep in “perfect form”. You still use a heavy load of 80% of your 1RM but you focus on a slow negative of at least 3 seconds, where your one working set should last at least 90 seconds.
The most brutal of these set schemes is Darden’s 30-10-30 set, in my opinion. If you’re really using 80% 1RM you’ll truly feel intensity without true “failure”.
I wish this concept of momentary failure were more widely discussed/ studied.
So since going to failure too often is not advised, how do I know when I can increase the load? Because normally you would increase the load once you are past 10 reps or 6, whatever rep range you are aiming for. If you don’t go to failure at least on one set of each exercise in each session then how can you know when you have gained enough strength and muscle to increase the load?
Can i workout if i am sick?is o.k not to wear underwear while doing workout?
Hey John, on your training programs where the RPE is 8 or 9 for a given exercise would you still go to failure on the last set or maintain the RPE. Keep up with the awesome content!
Close your eyes and just listen..you think it’s a 70s gay porn video Lol
Ow yeah John!!! I love your content man, congrats with the 100.000 subscribers ”almost”!!
Next step from begginer when you do 10 pull ups 12 dips 25 push ups?
I train to failure when I bench and my brother let the bar just lay on my chest
I am not sure what “go to failure” means. On the flat bench I start with 135 and do 12 reps to warm up. Then I add 20 lbs and do 10 reps at 155. Then I do 8 reps at 185 (all I can do). Then I do 5-7 reps at 205 (all I can do). Then I do 2 reps at 225 (all I can do). Then I can usually squeeze out one rep at 235 or even 245. If I add any more weight I can not get the bar all the way up, even 10 lbs. I have been stuck at this point for about 3 months. After flat bench I do decline bench and do the exact same method and weight. I have been lifting for 4 years and am 68. I want to make more progress.
That’s a good one for me,the fact that I ‘ m 65 years old. With joints issues. Thanks guys.
After watching this guy for a while, I train to failure, no matter what, I don’t go beyond failure, because I’m still a somewhat beginner, new intermediate. I’ve seen many benefits from doing this, and I’m progressing much faster
I’m skinny as shit so I always train to failure. They don’t make a weight light enough for me to not fail before a normal arm day is over.
I personally do 3 sets per exercise on most muscle groups (not all, i do 8 sets of squats for expample). The first 2 sets are always very heavy, focussing on weight progression (of course to failure), then on the third set i go a little bit lighter and always do an ultimate dropset of destruction, beyond failure (dropset + half reps + isometrics + everything i have)
I go through and I don’t care what happens
Even if I faint in the gym.
I can tell he dont train to failure and only a failure says not to train to failure in my eyes! I have done bodybuilding for over 30 years and tried every split and training regime and set and rep routine and I can tell you reps in the 6 to 10 range and 3 sets to failure with 75% of you’re one rep max in all exercises or medium to heavy not super heavy weights give you the best muscle mass!! 4 ex for big muscle group and 3 for small muscle groups and 1 to 2 minute rests between sets and only 4 workout days a week! Intensity that’s what we are aiming for!! It’s not you’re muscles that become over trained its you’re central nervous system cant cope it needs time to recover!!
7:30 or maybe I’ll just do AX and have Jeff do the programming for me ��
Here is a question for all viewers. Who would you listen to most out of these two fellas with regards hypertrophy and why?
Oh I can’t train to failure, BeCaUsE i’M gOiNg tO gEt HuRt!
Love this coach
Awesome video! If I’d to rate it, it would be 10 out of 10. Thanks.
Btw arnold pushed people in workouts until they couldn’t participate in the competition as him
John, do you train each muscle group once or twice per week?
If you’re interested in a longer discussion of all the reasons why training to failure is unproductive, see this excellent discussion between Mike Israetel and Jeff Nippard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kwl5LiuCs4&t=29m18s
Nippard also summarized a recent study demonstrating this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNDpzfmj5dQ&t=318s
failure works to increase strength and hypertrophy but greatly increases recovery times. to learn skills, better to do volume and frequency.
Damn I was hoping doctor Greg would make a video about this!
Hi John
how would you train a lacking muscle group? Increase the volume, decrease the volume, work on the form? I read lots of conflicting information about this and would love to hear what you think
Grow that beard John! You’ll look like a jacked old man logan!
Oh and fantastic video as well lol
I use failure to gauge progression, 3 sets 6-4-2 for strength and 12-10-8 for hypertrophy all to failure,always trying to increase weight or reps, if I stop a few reps short I call it a warm up until I get to the 3 sets, I find this works best for me, ive tried every routine over 35 years of training and wont leave the gym unless ive hit failure every time…
I just recently found your channel and have been glad to see the kind of content that you produce, however, you are generating way too many ads for such a short video. It’s an ad every two minutes. That is not cool. I’m not the only one that is close to hitting the unsubscribe icon
Anyone like Greg who has taken steroids should not be allowed to hold world records.
Doc got a lightning storm on his arms. All kinds of lightning
Hey Greg, I suggest making a video on how to combine time under tension into workouts for effective training! I look forward to your insights!
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Very clear, informative, definitive extremely useful video! Thanks once again.
Can you make a vid about lower back porblems and tightness? The bar fell on my rear delts while squatting and I felt pressure on my spine/lower back. It’s been a week and I can still feel thightness down there.
offtopic, what do you guys think of girls who walk in the gym wearing stripper like outfits, walk around the gym dont do any exercise, just be on their phone, takes some selfies in a good lighting area of the gym, grab a towel and leave? lol dont tell this only happens at the gyms here in Chicago.
I go to failure on every set thats a working set or within one rep. Im not a big believer of forced reps. Rest pause and strip sets work better for me. I go beyond failure on leg press. Use my arms to get a few forced reps but any other legs dont risk it. I always think of Fux in that squat accident.
Hey Josewould love to see a quick video on gynecomastia surgery and your experience with it (which compounds caused it, has it come back at all, etc.)
So many guys seem to struggle with gynecomastia these days and it seems like it was not prevalent at all back in the 70s and early 80s. Your thoughts on the subject would be appreciated!
What Arnold did worked for him. He will always be one of the greats. His mindset is so powerful
I have trained for 2.5 years and i like to always train to failure on 1 joint execises at 8-12 rep range because counting while training hard is hard so i rather do much as i can
Im from Spain and my english is regular, im sorry if I make some mistakes… My question is where failure is? Failure with the perfect form of the excercise? Failure compromising a little the form? If take the RPE scales as reference, compromising form is going further the failure, but its not clear to me… technical failure or complete failure??? I see the failure as something very extensive…
I found this video very helpful. All things being equal, I wait four to six weeks before I push new lifters to train a set or more to failure (10 to 15 rep range). New lifters often confuse the initial muscle burn with muscle fatigue and will often stop. I think having them train to failure (or close to it), whilst maintaining strict form helps to set their training baselines, and also develop the mental awareness necessary to safely challenge their muscles. Please feel free to correct me if you disagree with this approach. And thanks again for all that you share!
You did absolutely fuckin nothin you didn’t answer the question. Give the science I don’t give a fuck what YOU
F the reearch. Having owned 2 gyms and trained thousands of people and hundreds of athletes, I train everyone to failure every set. Powerlifters No. If you are too tired to bust your ass, stay home to rest.
Real men have beards also walk away from exploding buildings fact. Also still stumped and getting my legs ready for this show in 11 weeks can’t get really good definition
If only I watched this video last week. I went too hard too soon and my biceps will be useless for another three days probably.
if he is number 1 trainer for hypertrophy, why is he not in good shape? I get so weary of trainers that look just like that.no delts, no traps, no chest, not a flat stomach. Sorry to be a downer.
Hey John! This isn’t really related to the topic of the video but do you have any advice for clearing up biceps tendonitis? Should I completely stop training until it gets better? Can I just cut out overhead work?
U are literally crazy fit I have ever seen…a good person to inspire to tone body into its perfect way to total potential… thankyou so much ��
Watching people lock their knees on the leg press gives me some sort of anxiety man
Used to squat to failure twice a week for years. Now I need to foam roll and stretch my hips for 30-45 minutes before every leg workout. Feel like I would’ve made very similar progress by doing a couple more sets and removing the last forced reps.
Pretty sure this is quite exaggerated but its still awesome.
I like to take my first two sets near failure, with a couple reps left in the tank.. Then the last set I’ll go completely all out. It also depends on the exercise, like cable chest flys I like doing complete failure but very high reps in 20-30 range. The lighter the weight I tend go to failure more often, on each set.
Hilarious how Arnold has to wipe the sweat of his face after doing nothing but standing behind Eddie at 1:03 ��
Mike Mentzer advocates ONE set till failure with various lifting exercises for muscle gain per WEEK. I repeat: doing ONE set per exercise till failure per WEEK. It sounds crazy but Dorian did basically the same thing only doing some warm up lifts. But hey, I’m here to learn so let’s see what’s up.
When I use lighter weights I always train to failure; if the weight is heavier I go to failure on the last set.