Common Errors When Utilizing Ice Packs on Workplace Injuires

A thin towel is bad wrap for an ice pack. It will quickly condense moisture which will freeze, negating the protection. What I found that works better is a terry washcloth or face towel covered with a ziplock plastic bag. The combination keeps out moisture and the nap of the terry allows air to do the heat exchange. ut.
The secondary benefit of initially using cooling is that it numbs the area.

I would use ice pack first 48hrs after injury. Then the next 48hrs I would alternate. Once I feel the inflammation has gone down i would use heat pack only

it absolutely reduces it.. what is he talking about. There is plenty of evidence that shows it reduces the flow of fluid into the injury and by slowing that down by definition it’s reducing and slowing inflammation.

It’s been 2 weeks now since I fell from bike and injured my left leg while balancing.
Injury is backside of knee (knee is fine) till middle of calf. Feels pain near left bone of calf area, if presses.
I can walk now but can’t fold legs and sit in sqat position.
Which pack can heal faster at this stage?
Can I start light stretching exercise?

I was starting to trust this guy but at the end he said, ask them what do they prefer

ExCusE mE wHat tHe f**K

This is great info thanks. I’ve been dealing with pain in my lower back from scoliosis and scataica. It’s also been going down my right leg. I was using a heat pad at night but my back would be throbbing. I’m going try a ice pack. I’ve been using biofreeze during the day some. Lately it’s been making me burn and turning red on my skin and itching,

I was told ice does not reduce inflammation and there is no actual evidence it does.. all it does is make you think thats what it’s doing by numbing your skin and that also inflammation is good, why would you want to reduce it to begin with,thats your body healing the area. That it’s a myth this idea that your body goes too far with inflammation doesn’t seem to make sense to me. Our bodies are generally pretty damn good at healing quickly

I guess! Ice packs will release excess heat that is causing pain in the jointed area or flat areas of body where heat is trapped due to our over activities of body.

& Heat packs for releasing cold if one is feeling shivering or some kind of cold, cough.

Thanks so much for the video it help.. so much I was in pain so much for using heat I remember the 2nd day I took a shower in the morning with hot water and it made it worse I felt a pain!!!

after running i have ligaments injury in my knee from one week please suggest me what i need to do i feel very pain in my knee��������

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All I needed to hear. I usually don’t put ice on sprains or strains. I like heat. If my body wants heat then heat it is

Totally missed the mark on what injuries or when to use heat etc

My ankle is swollen after an injury during a soccer game what do I do

What abt knee swelling but without any injury. Should i use cold or hot pack?

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Quick question can you use icy hot patches on sprained ankle?

heat or cold pack for leg and/or foot cramps during the night? how to keep them in place when you are in bed?

I’m in winter now with sciatica and I can’t do ice it’s too freezing so I didn’t do anything, 4 days later either have a warm shower in the evening or use a hot water bottle. I feel more comfy and soothed with a hwb. started walking today and it was feeling better so tomorrow I’ll walk morning and afternoon and do the stretching before I have breakfast and before bed. For cold I use a clean tea towel. I’ll try the compression strap next time.

You guys are great. Thank you for all this free information a true service to humanity.

What about heat for chronic inflammatory diseases like RA? Conventional wisdom says it’s a bad thing.

Why some docs say… that we shouldn’t ice an acute injury.., coz icing stops the blood flow to the area n therefore the healing.
What are ur thoughts on it??

So why does the body tend to overreact? Like I understand allergies and stuff but why here? It‘s different

Yes, usually apply cold and let stretching, moving or exercise be the heat producer.

I was just trying to explain to someone why ice helps but when they asked me why stopping the immune response is good, I couldn’t figure it out. Thanks for answering this!

Be aware that cooling inhibits blood clotting, so if you have a bleed or bruising, a cold pack can actually make that worse.

The rule of thumb I have always heard, and personally use, is put ice on an injury until the injury looks like it has reached its maximum level of tissue damage: worst swelling, most discoloration, in the case of a joint, most stiffness. In a few days when these things start to improve, heat can increase blood flow and thereby encourage healing.

I liked the video…glad to help keep you guys mentally healthy!

Thank you for sharing! The information and direction provided gives me much needed direction in dealing with my joint and muscle pain.

Great advice!! Love your videos! Thank you for sharing all your knowledge and experience. Appreciate it!

When doing the contrast therapy how much time do you wait between using the heating pad and then using the icepack? Also how many times a day?

I love these guys’ videos, but this one was just confusing…. I’m still trying to figure out whether to use heat or cold one month into healing my heal bursitis.

I’m leaving it here and hope you could share yoir thoughts on the arguments not to use ice https://youtu.be/yZEua2_78Ew

You guys are level headed and always have seperate, yet aggreable point of views. Remarkable videos!

A good idea in my opinion is to work on your clients and have them on your videos so that we can see like a before and after I guess. Even though I know not every injury is the same.

Just remember this:

Dont
Ice

Your body’s natural immediate response is heat.

Ice can kill the pain. And the healing process.

Thanks for the informative video!

Why do you say that it is insanity to try to do anything to the swelling and that the body responds appropriately, but then say that compression and elevation helps?

What would you tell a person who has an injury but also has arthritis (that is aggravated by cold)?

Hmm, I agree mainly on all but that pack being put under entire surface of lower back at around 6:00/01. I would always fold it so it covers mainly spine (bone part) as such and much less muscle area. After being folded it is approx my hand and half in width. And btw, when wrapping ice to ankle or so do not forget it there, I did once and had partially frozen skin and maybe even meat and later big and painful blister for 2 and more weeks if I remember correctly.:-) It was worse then heat burn.

Newly introduced to you guys. Really appreciate all the info you’re sharing across the immense amount of videos you’ve done. Love the daily goal (I can relate because I did 2000 videos on my first channel). Just subscribed!

Are you supposed to lie down when applying heat? I have one of those heating belts that you can stand/sit or walk around in. I was told by my massage therapist that heat is good for bulging & herniated disk, but when I apply heat it hurts MORE after 10 minutes not less.

What about popping your back and neck when you wake up or before working out? Is it bad or does it do damage?

I was thinking about getting a standing desk, i do alot of drawing and graphic design. Are standing desks better for back pain and posture?

Cold is simply the absence of heat it’s not a thing that can penetrate.

Icing my back worked great when it went out on me a few times…typical L5 S1 area that a lot of adults see problems with. I have used moist heat when the muscles spasm, and that helps for me. Great video as always, guys!

Cryotherapy sounds much cooler than it actually is. No pun intended.

I agree as far as soft tissue injuries go, but I have had a great deal of success using ice for nerve inflammation especially for nerve root issues.

What about if you’re not dealing with an injury but just have pain because of spinal stenosis and arthritis? Heat??

I am literally doing an ice pack many times a day for a badly sprained ankle from the last week.

What if there is no injury.there is pain in the hip because of prolonged sitting.

What about using infrared heat followed by cold? Or would you do ice and follow an hour later with infrared? Or not mix?

I wonder what would happen if all heat disappeared for one milasecond then reappeared in the exact same place would everything just die immediately?

Research has shown that icing injuries actually prolongs healing. Even the creator of the RICE protocol Dr. Mirkin has said that icing provides no benefit. In fact, it appears that nothing in RICE (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation) is beneficial. http://www.drmirkin.com/fitness/why-ice-delays-recovery.html

Very informative. Exactly what I was looking for. I subbed instantly

Cool video thank you!!

So is it really worth icing to speed up the process of the recovery or is it just meant to dull the pain while applying it?

Thank you for sharing this. I have had this question in mind for so long while treating muscle injury and this video helps in understanding when to use.

Ive been injured today 2 times my right and left arm it hurts me alot im scared becuz i think im going to have bone cancer its that right? Im scared!! I injured my self today twice morning and afternoon what should i do??

“Agh, I twisted my ankle.”
“Better start on the Cryotherapy.”

pls adjust urs mikes accordingly….voices are not audible…they are very low

Thank you for this video. Now, I know i was doing it the wrong way. ��

What about after an intense muscle workout at the gym? Not necessarily injury just general muscle soreness from your workout

This is so frickin helpful. I needed this video when I injured my wrist and shoulder playing tennis.

Speaking of ice packs; I am looking for good quality (durable) ice pack velcro headband style, one i can walk around with and not hold it on my head……ice packs only thing that really works when i have headaches. The one i can find on amazon, breaks easily and the bluefelt strip that is on one side falls off after a few uses.

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You can’t be serious
I do using and fall asleep for hours so I won’t feel the ridiculous coldness
FOR HOURS!

I would hypothesize that reason for this “over-reaction” is due in no small part to the rapid development of human civilization. When a caveman got sick or injured, their body’s natural immune response would likely be the only thing keeping them alive. They didn’t have things like hospitals or automobiles or climate controlled shelters that we have, so it was worth the added burden of enduring the body’s immune response if it meant keeping that caveman alive long enough to procreate. Today, however, because we have all of these amenities and conveniences, the burden of our body’s immune response can be a largely unnecessary process that our bodies go through in spite of all that.

dear I found this study  
Cryotherapy Reduces Inflammatory Response Without Altering Muscle Regeneration Process and Extracellular Matrix Remodeling of Rat Muscle
Gracielle Vieira Ramos,1 Clara Maria Pinheiro,2 Sabrina Peviani Messa,2 Gabriel Borges Delfino,2Rita de Cássia Marqueti,1 Tania de Fátima Salvini,2 and  Joao Luiz Quagliotti Durigana,1
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Conclusion
In summary, clinical-like cryotherapy reduced the inflammatory processes thought to decrease macrophage infiltration and the accumulation of TNF-α, NF-κB, TGF-β and MMP-9 mRNA levels. However, cryotherapy did not change injury area, desmin expression or Collagen I and III protein levels. Our study confirmed the initial hypothesis that cryotherapy could have a beneficial effect on inflammatory process, without affecting the regeneration process after TA injury.

Liked Video but you did not say how long you should keep ice on a lower back for sciatica pain. Ice feels good but I know I can not keep it long for a long time. (HOW LONG)?

who keep this answers coming or who keep this questions coming?:)

Why do you do your clips with your shoes on. Carrying germs from rest rooms, roads etc on your examination table. We love your clips without your shoes on. Great info clips thanks DRs ����

Hi I was diagnosed with bulging disc C6/7 pinching nerve 6 weeks ago. Getting better but sitting upright ie dining chair, driving still quite painful all down to finger tips. I did cycle regularly but can’t cycle at all at the moment.
By now should I be just HEATING or both?
By the way love the videos am doing the stretches and posture exercises they are helping ��

1:09 Sweet! So if I put my joints to the fridge, ill save a bunch of kush.

If we do stuff thats dangerous or are about to, why does our body “let us do it”

Are we sure this info cannot fit into a 5 min video? I’m pretty sure it would cost everyone less money, them and us.

And why is one of the top voted comments saying Don’t Ice?

That is not what they said at all. Not even close.

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